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Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Humannature » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:24 pm

Hi All,
9th House is the dharma sthan and Rahu signifies adharma.
Hence 9th house of natural zodiac is the marana karaka sthana for Rahu since Rahu feels remorseful and dejected here.
It is said that a malefic becomes a benefic in trikone houses. So, does Rahu in 9th become tamed and well behaved one or does it corrupt the dharma sthan due to it's presence in 9th?

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby jay2510 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:22 pm

Rahu will take towards dharma as well as adharma it is person’s choice. Once a person chose the direction then dispositer of Rahu will work as catalyst. My Rahu in Taurus dispositer is Venus so when I tried to follow dharma Rahu takes me away from wine & women.Whenever I followed adharma it takes me towards wine & women. This is my experience.
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby shilpa » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:43 pm

Humannature wrote:Hi All,
9th House is the dharma sthan and Rahu signifies adharma.
Hence 9th house of natural zodiac is the marana karaka sthana for Rahu since Rahu feels remorseful and dejected here.
It is said that a malefic becomes a benefic in trikone houses. So, does Rahu in 9th become tamed and well behaved one or does it corrupt the dharma sthan due to it's presence in 9th?

Thanks.


Dear HN,

Hope you are doing well.
Ra denotes unconventionalism....and a strong /positive Rahu in the 9th would mean strong faith.....but not belief in traditional ways of worship .
Such a native could have his own methods of connecting with spiritually and Divinity.
Or he could be the follower of a cult.........or even founder of a new religion .


Only when Rahu is malefic for the chart is when native becomes an Adharmi......provided there are no mitigations.

in addition RA in the 9th should show foreign connections........in some form if invoked by the right trigger of dasa or / and transit .

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Ann » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:57 pm

Hi
A lot of people say "when Rahu is malefic for the chart" could you elaborate exactly when and how this is please.

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby shilpa » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:12 am

Ann wrote:Hi
A lot of people say "when Rahu is malefic for the chart" could you elaborate exactly when and how this is please.

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Rahu the pretender takes on the qualities / character of the planet it conjuncts........or it's nakshatra dispositor, in case Rahu is standalone.

so we need to asses the positive or malefic nature of the conjuncting planet or the dispositor.
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Ann » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:27 am

Hi Shilpa

Rahu is conjunct Sun in Aries there is only 32 minutes between them so dispositor is Mars and Mars is in Leo which takes us back to the Sun.

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby shilpa » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:37 am

Ann wrote:Hi Shilpa

Rahu is conjunct Sun in Aries there is only 32 minutes between them so dispositor is Mars and Mars is in Leo which takes us back to the Sun.

Thanks for replying

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Ra in this case will act like the planet it conjuncts.......i.e Sun
and sun is exalted......so Rahu acts like exalted sun......and positive for this chart
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Ann » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:38 am

Hi Shilpa

Is it the same if this combination is in 1st house?

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby shilpa » Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:36 am

Ann wrote:Hi Shilpa

Is it the same if this combination is in 1st house?

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Yes with that combination Ra is positive even for the first house
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby nits » Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:20 am

what if Rahu conjoins Saturn in 9th LEO house,sun & moon is in saggi lagna ??
And saturn,rahu is in pushkaramsa.I am following god too much and dont have any bad habits.
I am concerned about the rahu apsecting moon & lagna.How to get out of the negative thoughts coming often.

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby deeps » Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:27 am

I know one lady who has Rahu in 9th house in Kumbh sign. She is a very pious lady, no foreign travels, pilgrimages in India only. She regularly does poojas, read holy books.
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Patriot » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:10 am

I know a person(50 years) with Rahu & Venus in 9th house. 9th house is cancer with Scorpio raising & moon debilitation.
She is very pious, religious, god fearing & dharmic. Always into pooja & house hold things, she is regular visitor to temple & recites stotra, shahastranama everyday.
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Ann » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:15 am

Hi Shilpa

One more question if you would be so kind - what does it mean if this person has Sun Mercury then sub sub dasha Rahu in play - Mercury is also placed in 1st in Aries. It's the Rahu bit I am interested in because I read somewhere about foreign travel or foreigners.

That's the last question - thank you so much for answering previous ones.

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Humannature » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:43 am

Shilpa ji,
Thanks for the reply. I am doing good.

deeps/Patriot,
Exactly my point. Since Rahu is in MKS in 9th, and weak and in a remorseful state he cannot be much adharmic.
But as Shilpa ji said, that's only half the story as, Weak or strong, Rahu's maleficity should also be checked.

Ann,
Please limit this thread to Rahu in 9th only. Please start another thread, if you wish, with your queries about your chart.

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Ann » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:02 am

Hi

OK will do - sorry

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Humannature » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:23 am

No problem. Just wanted this thread to focus on 9th Rahu only.
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Hari76 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:59 am

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Hari76 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:09 am

Shilpaji͵
May I know if Rahu is benefic or malefic for me? I have Sagi lagna with Rahu unaspected͵ unconjunct͵ in own nakshatra in the 11th house.
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby deeps » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:45 am

Hari,

I am not sure if Rahu was the cause for the mess in marriage. There must be other factors in both the charts.
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby shilpa » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:05 am

Ann wrote:Hi Shilpa

One more question if you would be so kind - what does it mean if this person has Sun Mercury then sub sub dasha Rahu in play - Mercury is also placed in 1st in Aries. It's the Rahu bit I am interested in because I read somewhere about foreign travel or foreigners.

That's the last question - thank you so much for answering previous ones.

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Dear Ann,
please post birth details.......the query is getting too deep...to answer without looking at the chart,
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby shilpa » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:20 am

Hari76 wrote:Shilpaji͵
May I know if Rahu is benefic or malefic for me? I have Sagi lagna with Rahu unaspected͵ unconjunct͵ in own nakshatra in the 11th house.


in it's own Nk makes it strong.....and positive
around Jan 2013 Rahu will transit to Libra and join shani there....making it a volatile combination that will stay together for over a year that will affect all humans.....

individual cases will depend on whether Rahu and shani are positive or malefic for that chart.....

in your case especially so.....as Ra-shani in transit will be crossing your natal Rahu.
Rahu is strong for you.....a lot will depend on whether shani us positive or malefic for you.

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Tiwari » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:47 am

shilpa wrote:Ra denotes unconventionalism....and a strong /positive Rahu in the 9th would mean strong faith.....but not belief in traditional ways of worship .
Such a native could have his own methods of connecting with spiritually and Divinity.
Or he could be the follower of a cult.........or even founder of a new religion .


Only when Rahu is malefic for the chart is when native becomes an Adharmi......provided there are no mitigations.

in addition RA in the 9th should show foreign connections........in some form if invoked by the right trigger of dasa or / and transit .


Hello All:

I have Rahu in 9th in taurus. I do have unconventional ideas about spirituality and religion; in fact, I have my own value system. I live abroad, and have no intentions of returning to my home country. Dharama and Adharama are big topics. I don't think I ever did anything adharmic -- unethical or incorrect -- but then again I have my own value system!

For me, Rahu antardasha was good. I came to the US; did very well as a doctoral student in literature. Rahu gave me glitter, publications, and limelight in my field at a very, very early stage. It also made me restless, though. Rahu also gave me the opportunity to meet really interesting and significant people in my discipline, and strike meaningful friendships with them. Interestingly, my friendships with my superiors always began at a little irritable note, as more or less I always challenged what they were saying. The result, however, was always wonderful. During Rahu antardasha I worked like a dog. Everything looked like a rich mine of opportunities. By the time Rahu AD was over I had transformed as a scholar and person. But I also lost my mom during Rahu antardasha.

I think overall my rahu antardasha was a period of massive transformations, restlessness, extreme hard work, and unexpected opportunities.
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Hari76 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:07 pm

Yes indeed Deeps͵ My chart is much afflicted in terms of mge. have highly afflicted debilitated Venus. I mentioned it since she is now undergoing Rahu dasha. So wonder whether that Rahu influenced her actions.

Shilpaji͵
Not sure if its off topic͵ I have Sani in the 8th house. For Sg lagna will that make him malefic?
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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby Narayan » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:43 pm

Dear All:

Let Rahu be dharmic or adharmic. The thing is that we are all trying to explain dharma and adharma according to one's own mindset, ideas and mythologies, theories, learned histories, but the truth maybe far from that because what is dharma and what is adharma counts only as per his texts and not of human made or human minds.

In some rare cases, one cannot say this is dharma and this is adharma etc. In some cases, there are stages where one cannot teach dharma as well as in the context of the game, it maybe vital.

For e.g. Lord Krishna told Arjuna to bow at Karna when Karna was without any Shastras or Asthras in the ground. As per the laws of war, some might say what Lord Krishna had done is adharma as one is not supposed to bow at the opponent when he is Nirayudha, but only he knows why and what?

So, describing everything according to our logics might not be correct, but yes Rahu definitely has the conventionality of doing things on his own, isnt it?... :)

All these theories are confined to boundaries where the logics will also fail beyond it.

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Re: Rahu in 9th - dharmic or adharmic?

Postby deeps » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:49 pm

Yes indeed Deeps͵ My chart is much afflicted in terms of mge. have highly afflicted debilitated Venus. I mentioned it since she is now undergoing Rahu dasha. So wonder whether that Rahu influenced her actions.


I need to see both the charts to arrive at a final conclusion.
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