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How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby rajat.kapoor5 » Tue May 31, 2011 12:41 am

Dear All,
Namaskar
Here are few yogas which can indicate mental illness:

The "Jataka Tattva" lists some of the following conditions as possible combinations for mental illness:
1. Jupiter in the ascendant and Mars in the seventh house or vice versa.
2. Saturn in the lagna and Mars in the 5th, 7th or 9th house.
3. Saturn in the 12th house associated with a waning Moon.
4. Saturn in the lagna, Sun in the 12th house and Mars or the Moon in a trine.
5. Association of Saturn and the lord of the second house with the Sun or Mars.
6. Birth in the hora of Saturn or Mars, a Sun-Moon conjunction in the lagna, the 5th or the 9th, and Jupiter in a quadrant.
7. Mandi (the malefic sub-planet that has no physical existence but has a Saturn-like quality) in the 7th, afflicted by a malefic. The same result may apply if Mandi is in the 5th house.
8. Rahu and the Moon in the Lagna, and malefics in the trines. (i.e., "Pishacha Grasta" Yoga, a combination for being overtaken by the "spirits", indicative of phobias.)
9. Afflictions to the Moon (mind), Mercury (nervous system) and Jupiter (maturity / wisdom). Particularly, when all three of these planets are afflicted, conditions leading to mental illness are highly possible.

Besides these yogas, Pt Sanjay Rath writes in his book "Brhat Nakshatra" that Manasa Tara", which is the 25th nakshatra from Janma/Lagna Nakshatra, shows the impelling thoughts of the mind and typical mental attitude and attribute. Its the mental strength of the individual and insanity and other mental disease find their roots in this nakshatra.

Now, here are the birth details of one native, who is a patient of Schizophrenia. His birth details are:
DOB: September 17, 1960
TOB: 16:30 hours
POB: London, United Kingdom

In this chart, here are my observations:
1. Jupiter is in lagna and Mars is in 7th house. Jupiter is conjoined with Saturn (placed in MKS) and aspected by Mars (placed in MKS). See Jupiter is even though in lagna and in own sign, is unable to help the native from not being a schizophrenic. This is because Jupiter is highly afflicted by two malefic planets both placed in marana karaka sthana, giving rise to Brahmana Saapa. I have seen people taking Jupiter unanimously a benefic, which is not a correct approach. If Jupiter is afflicted then it will not give proper support in the native's life.
2. Moon, the karaka of mind is in marana karaka sthana with almost no paksha bala and is a dire malefic as its waning moon. This also indicates disease related to mind.
3. Rahu is placed in marana karaka sthana in 9th house and is aspecting 5th house, which is the house of wisdom and decision making. Mercury (karaka of nervous system), which is badhakesha also, is afflicted by the aspect of Rahu and Mars.
Thus, Moon (karaka of mind), Jupiter (karaka of wisdom) and Mercury (karaka of nervous system) all are afflicted by malefics or being in marana karaka sthana gives mental illness like schizophrenia for sure.
Manasa tara from Moon (Aasresa) is Ardra, lorded by Rahu, is placed in marana karaka sthana and is aspecting lagna and 5th house. Whereas Manasa tara from Lagna (PurvaAsadha) is Anuradha, lorded by Saturn. Saturn is placed in Lagna, in MKS and is aspected by other two malefics Rahu and Mars (both in marana karaka sthana).

Here is another chart of a lady who is mentally retarded and her birth details are as following:
December 1, 1945
14:19 hours
Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
21N18 157W51
TZ: 10:30 (West of GMT)

My observations are :

Moon, the karaka of mind is in marana karaka sthana with almost no paksha bala and is aspected by Mars and Rahu. Jupiter is placed in 7th house and aspected by Saturn, whereas Badhakesa Mercury is conjoined with 6th and 8th lord. The 5th house which corresponds to thinking, logic and wisdom is highly afflicted as Yama yoga is there. Thus destroying the 5th house completely and 5th lord is placed in marana karaka sthana too.
Manasa tara from Moon (Swati) is Uttara Phalguni lorded by Surya. Surya in 9th house with 8th lord and badhakesa, indicating heat and anger in head. All this together indicate mental illness to the native.

P.S.: I will keep posting more charts and my analysis on mental illness in this thread. This is a research initiated by me on Adhomukha Nakshatra and i request all the learned members to share the charts related to mental illness or Schizophrenia.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby nirmala » Tue May 31, 2011 4:20 am

Dear Rajat ji,
You mentioned that :-


rajat.kapoor5 wrote:8. Rahu and the Moon in the Lagna, and malefics in the trines. (i.e., "Pishacha Grasta" Yoga, a combination for being overtaken by the "spirits", indicative of phobias.)


Does this combination hold good for mentall illnesses such as alzheimers etc wherein the person sees people (only in his mind.. not in reality)
Or does it mean a person is actually haunted by spirits.(where spirits really possess a person.)

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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby rajat.kapoor5 » Tue May 31, 2011 4:24 am

Dear Nirmala,
Namaste,
It acts good for Alzheimers also :)
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby nirmala » Tue May 31, 2011 4:28 am

Dear Rajat ji,
Thank you for clarifying that :)


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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby rajat.kapoor5 » Tue May 31, 2011 4:34 am

Dear Nirmala,
If you know anyone having Alzheimers or Schizophrenia, please share his/her birth details here. It will be very helpful to me in my research.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby nirmala » Tue May 31, 2011 4:41 am

rajat.kapoor5 wrote:Dear Nirmala,
If you know anyone having Alzheimers or Schizophrenia, please share his/her birth details here. It will be very helpful to me in my research.
Regards



Dear Rajat ji,
I do not know of anyone with alzheimers but i do know of a lady who was haunted and under severe influence of evil spirits. I will try to get her birth details for you soon.


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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby Prasanna » Tue May 31, 2011 7:06 pm

rajat.kapoor5 wrote:Dear Nirmala,
If you know anyone having Alzheimers or Schizophrenia, please share his/her birth details here. It will be very helpful to me in my research.
Regards



Dear Rajat ji,

I have a lady 's chart who is suffering still under Alzheimer's from past six years. Let me search and post it here (for all of us to learn more ) by today. I met her in her house last 30th August 2010 in person and I have given her hubby few remedies to be done for her sake , as myself and my Guru ji felt she can be out of her illness soon. .But unfortunately we both lost connection with that family after my visit to them due to the opposition of her own family members, to Astrologers. . Now we are not sure of her improvements . Hope and pray we should hear soon from them , that she is good.

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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby Prasanna » Tue May 31, 2011 8:06 pm

Details of her chart

June 26,1954
6 07 am
calicut, Kerala.

Husband
June 20 1945
2 20 am
calicut
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby rajat.kapoor5 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:58 am

Dear Prasanna,
Here are my some inputs on her chart:
1. She has Jupiter in Lagna and Mars in 7th house. According to Jataka Tattva, this gives mental illness. This Jupiter is terribly afflicted too, by aspected by Rahu and retrograde Mars. See retro Mars is involved in the curse, hence this curse is impossible to be remedied. Either the person will not perform the remedies or the remedies will not work for her because of her karmic baggage.
2. Moon is in 11th house. According to my Guruji, any planet which is in 11th house/Aquarius is lost (hara). Moon is the karaka of mind and is afflicted by the aspect of Rahu and Saturn. Saturn is also retrograde. Retro Saturn in 5th house will behave like neecha Saturn.
3. Mercury is also badly afflicted in Lagna. In this way, karaka of mind, wisdom and nervous system all three are afflicted. This will give serious mental imbalance.
4. Now see the 5th lord. Venus is placed in 2nd house and is aspected by Saturn and Mars and both retro planets. Again a curse impossible to be remedied.

All the factors, karaka of mind, wisdom, nervous & 5th lord is under severe curse and that too through retrograde planets. Hence mental illness can be predicted in this chart.

Now lets see this chart in perspective of Manasa Taara:

Manasa Taara from Moon (Aswini) is Purva Bhadrapada, lorded by Jupiter. Now Jupiter as already mentioned above is under severe curse, being Manasa Taara is indicating mental disease. Manasa Taara from Lagna (Ardra) is Krittika, lorded by Sun. Sun is again badly afflicted. Sun as Manasa taara and afflicted indicates heat and anger in head. This also confirms mental illness.

SINCE IN ALL THE CURSES, RETROGRADE PLANETS ARE INVOLVED, I DON'T SEE ANY POSSIBILITY OF REMEDIES TO WORK.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby nirmala » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:15 am

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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby Prasanna » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:36 pm

Dear Rajat,

You are cent percent correct in telling, Either the person will not perform the remedies or the remedies will not work for her because of her karmic baggage. She cant perform as she is unable to recognize any one except her husband . Her own younger sister and her 2 daughters spoke very ill of me and my Guru ji when I wanted to help them feeling pity over her husband , seeing his kind hearten ness and his loneliness in his own house. He started treating me his own sister. Within 15 days , myself and my guru ji were disconnected from their family and they spoke very ill of Astrologers which hurtled us both .Really sad, and they stopped that man from connecting to outside world too . He became my friend in one Spiritual site . We met as Co spiritual writers. Now he is nowhere writing any posts. We wanted to know his well being, but could not . So , we can conclude from t his it is sure retrograde planets under curses will never make remedies work and their destiny is such that they have to undergo Karmic curses from previous birth . Seeing such person's we can be well educated ., Thanks for your analysis. Post your views and end result of the case study given by u in another thread please.

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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby rajat.kapoor5 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:50 pm

Dear Prasanna,
Namaskar,
I really feel sad for her as i know she must be suffering a lot. I consulted my Guru right now on this chart and she advised not to initiate any help for her because of two reasons:

1. Retrograde planets are very strong and indicate karmic baggage, so they will not let any remedy work.
2. Her Atmakaraka Mercury which is retrograde is conjoined with 3rd and 6th lord and is aspected by two severe malefics Rahu and Mars, hence initiating any help for her will make the person helping also a part of the karmic baggage. So refrain from helping her.

PS: I will be writing today only my view on the case study we have started in another thread.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby rajat.kapoor5 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:59 pm

nirmala wrote:Dear Rajat ji,

Here are the details of a lady who was under influence of evil spirits (thats what her family says)

Her birth details are : 8th Aug 1961 , between 6:30 to 7:30 am

Other imp event dates are :
1) marriage :- 22nd Oct 1982
2) The lady had a love marriage but despite that has had a very bad married life. Her husband and his family have ill treated her all her life. He drinks, squanders money and is a womanizer.
3)She has 2 daughters. The younger one was born on : 3rd Feb 1987

Her family mentioned that during June 2007, the influence of evil spirits was very high. She was on the verge of death then.


Hope this chart can help in your research.


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Dear Nirmala,
Namaskar
Please tell the place of birth.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby ChandraLagna » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:51 pm

Excellent article, Rajatji!

Very good work - keep it up.

I think your examples and explanation helps people.

But it seems sad that no one can help, or indeed helping this person is forbidden, otherwise this person will also become part of "karmic baggage".
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby R V RAMANAN » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:08 am

Dear Rajat Ji

Here is a case of schizophrenia and minimal brain damage. You can use this detail for your research

16-1-1975
5.15 am
chennai

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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby sita » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:23 am

rajat.kapoor5 wrote:Dear Nirmala,
If you know anyone having Alzheimers or Schizophrenia, please share his/her birth details here. It will be very helpful to me in my research.
Regards


Hello Rajat Sir,

I know a Bollywood star suffering from Schizophrenia....She was very gorgeous....can u guess her?....Should I give u the details??

Regards
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I m a happily married woman :)
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby rajat.kapoor5 » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:30 am

Dear Ramanan ji,
Namaskar,
Thanx a lot for the data. I will definitely look this chart and will give my inputs here.

Dear Sita,
As far as I know, She was Praveen Babi. Pls share the birth details.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby NS Dahiya » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:29 pm

Dear Rajat Kapoor and others
One very potential setting for Schizophernia is =’4th house from ascendant or from Moon afflicted by nodes and Moon in nodes nakshetra or else aspected by either of these –
in thecase of lady whose birth particularsare given in note dated June 3 by Mr Ramanan, this confition is fullymet as Rahu from 12th house is aspecting4th house and Moon is in Shatbhishag of Rahu
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby aseem82 » Wed May 16, 2012 7:15 am

Afflictions to the Moon (mind), Mercury (nervous system) and Jupiter (maturity / wisdom). Particularly, when all three of these planets are afflicted, conditions leading to mental illness are highly possible.


Very true. It is purely logical and can be seen in the charts of people with mental illness.

Mental Illness is due to long term inner frustrations and lonely life.

Moon Affliction- a waning moon or aspected or in conjunct with malefics planets like Mars, Deb. Guru, Rahu and Ketu gives mental illness like depression, moodiness, angry temperament. Moon is the significator of mind. The stength of moon has greater influence on minds. It has nothing to do with logical or mathematical skills. Most of the mental disorders happen when the moon is afflicted. These ranges from simple mental abberrations to neuro-psychotic disorders. Like Moon afflicted by malefics like Mars, saturn or sun can gives rise tp quick temper, aggressive , violent, acute depression and maniac due to saturn, phobias, suicidl tendencies when afflicted by ketu and cunning in thought by Rahu.

-Mercury Affliction- debilitation, aspected by Saturn or Rahu. It distorts the natural significations of mercury i.e. intellect, nervous systems, logic and hence opposed to moon. A patient with bioploar with poor mercury will fail to see logic in his moodiness or excitement or depression. Afflicted mercury gives low intelligence, dishonest, neurotic and frack.The comprehensive power of mind is lowered. Since mercury also rules nervous systems, sometimes it leads to epilepsy in some cases.

Jupiter affliction- debilitated jupiter, or aspected by malefics causes poor in maturity and wisdom. Hence a person is more nervousness, intellectual confusion and inability to take decisions.

Afflictions to mercury and guru causes abnormality in behaviour for e.g. afflicted mercury in 6th house and aspected by saturn causess some sort of mental derangement as given in a case study in another website.

Afflicted to mercury and Jupiter causes decline of functioning of brain rapidly in later part of lives which results in rapidly rising dementia, depression and so on. Affliction to the moon add to more misery.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby aseem82 » Wed May 16, 2012 6:03 pm

Continuing from the above, I am now going to qoute what various classics have to say on this-

Afflicted Moon

First House
Brihat Jataka: The person concerned will be mute, insane, stupid, blind, base or mean, deaf or servile (this does not apply to birth with Moon in Aries, Taurus or Cancer). If the Moon should occupy her own house identical with the Ascendant, the person will be rich. If Aries takes the place of Cancer, the person concerned will have many children. If Taurus be the ascendant, the person will be wealthy.


Phaldeepika: If the Moon of the bright half of the lunar month (Sukla Paksha) is in the ascendant, the native will be fearless, of strong body, wealthy and long lived. Quite opposite will be the results if the Moon is of dark half of the lunar month.


Dark half mean waning moon.

Saravali:A waning Moon in the ascendant will make the native mean, deaf, mute and perturbed. (this does not apply to birth with Moon in Aries, Taurus or Cancer

Chamatkar ChintamaniIf the Moon be in Aries, Taurus and Cancer in the ascendant, the person concerned will be rich, lustrous and will enjoy all kinds of comforts. If Moon be in Gemini, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces in the ascendant, the native will be poor, weak bodied, stupid and deaf.

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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby aseem82 » Wed May 16, 2012 6:07 pm

So we see from the above all classics agree what a malefic moon in lagna is capable of doing it.

Here the classics are silent as to what will happen if malefic moon occupies other houses.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby Yellow » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:44 pm

I have read that to see mental problems for a person one has to check his Moon, Mercury, 4th house, 5th house, and the zodiacs Cancer and Leo. The more afflictions to them, the more the chances of mental problems.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby 2002diksha » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:53 am

sir,
i have a chart where the two of the above mentioned conditions for mental illness satisfy. the person has moon in node's nakshatra and the fourth house from ascendant and moon is afflicted. to add to the matter the moon is in aqaurius in eleventh house. so the person is having schizophrenia. the birth details are:
18 sep 1975
7:35 pm
patna
probing further i would like to add i know a person who has a chart that also satisfy the condition mentioned above ,that if the saturn and lord of second house have some connection with mars and sun then also the mental illness can occur. will the person also get mentally ill. i know its hard to make predictions but can we assume that since the condition for mental illness is met so the person gets the illness. if here are strong yogas in the chart in addition to some very strong raja yoga then will those yogas in the chart shield the person to some extent and help the person to lead a normal life. kindly throw some light.
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Re: How to analyze mental illness in any chart

Postby astro.student » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:21 am

Dear Raj Kapoor Sir,

Thanks for the good article.

Whar are the remedies to be suggested for these combinations.
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